sjw wrote:You've almost caught up to me, one more step now...
This reply is too cryptic.
sjw wrote:You've almost caught up to me, one more step now...

tism wrote:sjw wrote:You've almost caught up to me, one more step now...
This reply is too cryptic.

sjw wrote:Francois Tremblay wrote:It only "logically follows" in the same sense that it "logically follow" for Creationists that all materialist worldviews must contradict in some way. It does not account for the possibility of your worldview actually being wrong.
I could say the same thing to you about your worldview. What of it? You're just pouting about the meaning of deductive logic. Yes, we all think we are right, we all think the other party is wrong, except for the class of people who think that nobody is right, and anybody who thinks he is right is wrong (sarcasm).
SJW
Francois Tremblay wrote:Yes, and? You haven't advanced beyond that. Are you willing to consider that you might be wrong?
Since you seem to refuse to put forward a position, methinks you are already mindful of that possibility, and don't want to engage us on that level.
Francois Tremblay wrote:"I put forward a position"
What position? So far you've only made vague propositions about what you think government is.
NoDeity wrote:tism wrote:sjw wrote:You've almost caught up to me, one more step now...
This reply is too cryptic.
His reply suggests to me that we're dealing with an arrogant fuck who isn't interested in learning. I could be wrong -- but I doubt it.
Francois Tremblay wrote:This is the difference between a concept and its instances again. Pay attention this time.
What everyone points at when they say "government" is most definitely NOT consensual, mutual or based on cooperation. The fact that what you point at when you say "government" is consensual, mutual and based on cooperation (according to you) indicates that either you are probably not using the word properly (and hence not pointing at the same things we are), or you are not observing what you are pointing at properly.
sjw wrote:NoDeity wrote:tism wrote:sjw wrote:You've almost caught up to me, one more step now...
This reply is too cryptic.
His reply suggests to me that we're dealing with an arrogant fuck who isn't interested in learning. I could be wrong -- but I doubt it.
I want to learn why you'd reject a form of consensual mutual cooperation merely because I tacked the word "government" onto it. It seems like you are irrationally clinging to hatred of that word. Not that I don't have sympathy for why you don't like it.

NoDeity wrote:sjw wrote:NoDeity wrote:tism wrote:sjw wrote:You've almost caught up to me, one more step now...
This reply is too cryptic.
His reply suggests to me that we're dealing with an arrogant fuck who isn't interested in learning. I could be wrong -- but I doubt it.
I want to learn why you'd reject a form of consensual mutual cooperation merely because I tacked the word "government" onto it. It seems like you are irrationally clinging to hatred of that word. Not that I don't have sympathy for why you don't like it.
I want to learn why you don't think others can see how dishonest you're being.
Francois Tremblay wrote:If you guys check the Social Organization thread, SJW just admitted he's a minarchist. He's one of those "every piece of land a fiefdom" guys.
sjw wrote:Francois Tremblay wrote:If you guys check the Social Organization thread, SJW just admitted he's a minarchist. He's one of those "every piece of land a fiefdom" guys.
I am *not* a minarchist. A minarchist will assert *his* rules onto *your* land.

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