i'm a walking contradiction.

[Zakbot]

As soon as I saw that a military boy was posting, I knew Franc's responses would be great. Franc may be a fucking ass hole, but he does make good points, even if they're difficult truths.

[Hierophant]

Thanks zakbot. I have given up on this guy, I think he's beyond restauration, but I might be wrong. Either way, it's not gonna help him to omit the truth.

[campershell dreams]

i don't see what difference it makes whether you gave up on me or not. you provided the MOF podcasts, which i'm still listening to. i think that's enough from you. besides, i doubt there's ever going to be a time that i'll change my mind about anarchism under circumstances that could have only been prevented had you not given up on me.

[Centurijohn]

As soon as I saw that a military boy was posting, I knew Franc's responses would be great. Franc may be a fucking ass hole, but he does make good points, even if they're difficult truths.

Which difficult truths are you talking about? Franc's claim that campershell dreams is an evil faggot, his evidence-avoiding belief that soldiers = murderers, or something different?

[MustangGT]

Franc is pissed cause a recently-turned-anarchist joined GOTG, who happens to be a soldier and is currently serving out his contract with the US ARMY. And also because he didnt grovel at Franc's feet for forgiveness over being a soldier.

I think Franc is hiding behind pretentious moral outrage to avoid having to show enough courage and compassion and forgiveness to welcome this new anarchist with open arms.

Personally, I think that one soldier becoming an anarchist is worth 5 civilians becoming anarchists. I think Campershell Dreams is a brave motherfucker for following his own intellect and logic to anarchy, despite his current job. When his contract is over, he is not signing another one. Hes heading in the right direction IMO.

[Hierophant]

I did welcome him with open arms. Just because you see telling the truth as being hostile doesn't bother me. I rejected him because of his faggotry and dick-waving exhibited in another thread, not because of this thread.

Aaron, you better fucking apologize for this. You are treating me like shit.

[campershell dreams]

aaron, thanks for having my back. we're totally going to bang your girlfriend for this.

[vertigo]

Franc is pissed cause a recently-turned-anarchist joined GOTG, who happens to be a soldier and is currently serving out his contract with the US ARMY. And also because he didnt grovel at Franc's feet for forgiveness over being a soldier.

I think Franc is hiding behind pretentious moral outrage to avoid having to show enough courage and compassion and forgiveness to welcome this new anarchist with open arms.

You're joking, right? Campershell Dreams is a big boy, he signed a contract willingly and doesn't need his arse wiped for him. If he is getting out, it is because he wants to, he has been there and maintains that civilians can't understand what the army is like. We are pussies, we don't understand. I don't mind that really except that he should just remember that not everyone is what they seem to be.

[campershell dreams]

yeah because i totally said you guys are pussies.

it seems you have me all figured out (even though people aren't always what they seem to be).

[MustangGT]

I did welcome him with open arms. Just because you see telling the truth as being hostile doesn't bother me. I rejected him because of his faggotry and dick-waving exhibited in another thread, not because of this thread.

Aaron, you better fucking apologize for this. You are treating me like shit.

Ill apologize for upsetting you but I wont take back what I said about your treatment of campershell because the first post you did in his intro thread was going off about how hes an evil murderer and how you hate him

edit: and Im not trying to treat you like shit, man. You and I go waaaay back and you are a good friend of mine.

[Hierophant]

Thank you for apologizing, even though you won't admit that you're treating me like shit.

[vertigo]

it seems you have me all figured out (even though people aren't always what they seem to be).

You said it yourself, one doesn't have time to ponder.

[Brad Reddekopp]

The way I see it, CD made a very serious moral error that got him where he is. Without excusing his mistake, I can at least acknowledge that he has plans to change his life to something better.

As for the accusations of posturing -- pot, meet kettle.

[MustangGT]

I think that many of the anarchists here who are attacking campershell are those who are not interested in seeing anarchy grow in popularity. I am not one of those.

And I havent noticed campershell "attacking" us or whatever. I HAVE, however, noticed Franc and Vertigo attacking him without anything that I see as a justification. I think you punks are letting your feathers get all ruffled over having to deal with the fact that a currently serving soldier has just deconverted to anarchy and has joined the forums.

Are you little girls afraid of something? Isnt this the very fucking MANIFESTATION of the opportunity for anarchy that we all claim to want?

NoDeity is, once again, showing a much more reasonable and rational response to the situation than just about anyone else in here.

[Cory Duchesne]

Moral indignation, I think, is kind of an addicting power trip. It's also based on a misunderstanding of determinism.

If I consider the worst of what humanity has to offer, like a serial killer, what I see is a person whose brain is malfunctioning. Personally, I don't have to struggle with any temptations to kill people (I don't even have the mildest desire to kill people), so if there are people out there who kill, it's obvious that there brains are working in a way that is different from me.

There is really no one to blame for anything. People are caused to choose what they choose based on the involuntary way that their brain works.