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Quote about domination

Postby Hierophant » Wed Dec 31, 2008 00:13

J.P. Griffin, from the facebook group "Make Total Destroy: In Solidarity With Greece", made this comment which I thought worthy of preservation:

Complicity — Domination is a relationship, not a condition; it depends on the participation of both parties. Hierarchical
power is not just the gun in the policeman’s hand; it is just as much the obedience of the ones who act as if it
is always pointed at them. It is not just the government and the executives and the armed forces: it extends through
society from top to bottom, as an interlocking web of control and compliance. Sometimes all it takes to be complicit
in the oppression of millions is to be a slave who dies of natural causes.
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Re: Quote about domination

Postby neverfox » Wed Dec 31, 2008 03:10

I'm going to have to ruminate on this a bit but at first glance it seems a bit like a defense of implicit consent. I understand that we can't have anarchy without anarchists, but I'm not willing to say that the beaten wife is at fault. I can see this kind of argument being twisted to excuse the state as much as oppose it. Should we really be spending time trying to spread the blame rather than simply opposing those who dominate? I realize that this statement is supposed to be a rallying call to do just that but it seems to unnecessarily play the guilt card.
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Re: Quote about domination

Postby Nokes » Wed Dec 31, 2008 03:18

neverfox wrote:I'm going to have to ruminate on this a bit but at first glance it seems a bit like a defense of implicit consent. I understand that we can't have anarchy without anarchists, but I'm not willing to say that the beaten wife is at fault. I can see this kind of argument being twisted to excuse the state as much as oppose it. Should we really be spending time trying to spread the blame rather than simply opposing those who dominate? I realize that this statement is supposed to be a rallying call to do just that but it seems to unnecessarily play the guilt card.

I agree.
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Re: Quote about domination

Postby Hierophant » Wed Dec 31, 2008 13:15

Well I hold the position that we all share responsibility for the criminal system in place. I know others disagree.
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Re: Quote about domination

Postby Sparx » Wed Dec 31, 2008 15:31

That's what this system wants people to have - an enemy. Even if it's the Government itself, it doesn't matter. The riot in Greece is probably a political exploitation of this very thing. This is the oldest political strategy in the world, to divide and conquer. Why is it that people never learn? Once individuals realize their personal responsibility for the system in place, only then can they constructively oppose those who dominate.
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