Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby Dil » Sat Feb 14, 2009 14:54

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Dil wrote:I don't think I have any difficulties in personal relationships. I'm not very popular, but I can fit in with some effort (I blend in perfectly) and the reason why I'm not popular is that I can't maintain the veneer without tiring myself out. So it works for a while, like while I'm at school, but I don't like going to school functions. I seem to lack some normal functions, like the natural ability to flirt, you know, like twirl hair and stuff. I have no natural idea of how to do that, I'm sure I could probably figure it out if I read a book or something, but I really have no interest in the primate rituals. I also suspect my efforts would come off contrived.

I can relate to that. Also, I didn't know that the ability to flirt was natural. I don't think I have it in me, and I also get a bit resentful when other people are flirting in front of me. Is that weird?


I think it's natural. It's an ape courting thing probably, all other animals have some sort of courting thing they come up with, so we probably do too, but we don't like to think of it that way (we think we're not animals, when we are). You'd be surprised to hear how much we're affected by pheromones (smells that males/females emit). I get a bit resentful too, but I think it's more like self pity.
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby vertigo » Sat Feb 14, 2009 15:57

Your Aspie score: 74 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 119 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical.

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What a silly test. How can I be "very likely" neurotypical (whatever that means) with these ambiguous results?

Hmm, I'm closest to Nokes it seems :cheers: although NoDeity is not far different.
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby tism » Sat Feb 14, 2009 16:35

Dil wrote:I think it's natural. It's an ape courting thing probably, all other animals have some sort of courting thing they come up with, so we probably do too, but we don't like to think of it that way (we think we're not animals, when we are). You'd be surprised to hear how much we're affected by pheromones (smells that males/females emit). I get a bit resentful too, but I think it's more like self pity.

No point in resenting it. They're airheads. Primitive motions only work to hinder the mind's ability to reason.

Recently I heard a conversation like this (both apparently in their 20's):

Her: "Do you love me?"

Him: "Yeah. Do you love me?"

Her: "Yeah. Will you do anything for me?"

Him: "Yeah" (seriously? anything?? Fuck!)

Her: "Do you REALLY love me?"

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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby vertigo » Sat Feb 14, 2009 17:08

Q. Do you really love me?
A. I am attracted to you physically at the moment, although perhaps not for long. Anyway, I've no one else right now. I like how other guys look at you when we're together, it makes me feel good. Although I don't like your nagging, but I put up with it. I'm not ready to settle down yet, I'm just having fun at the moment. If you bore me, I may flirt with other girls, but I like knowing that I can come back to you.

So yeah, I really love you.
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby Brad Reddekopp » Sat Feb 14, 2009 17:12

I was never any good at flirting, either. Hell, it took me decades to learn to detect when someone was flirting with me, then quite a while longer until I figured out how to respond appropriately if I wanted the flirting to continue. Fortunately, my wife is someone who liked what she saw in me and didn't let my incompetence get in her way.
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby Hierophant » Sun Feb 15, 2009 01:00

Just like politics or religion or diets, it's a game. You have to play the game in order to be accepted. It's really just bullshit.
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby vertigo » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:19

Of course, this is all just talk. You'll soon learn what type of person your partner is by how they act, and they will soon learn what type of person you are, and the fluffy talk will probably become more or less meaningless.
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby Sparx » Sun Feb 15, 2009 14:08

I don't know. It seems impossible for me to find the right environment yet. Yesterday I went to a party and I couldn't get past the smalltalk part. I tried fitting in with you guys on Skype, didn't work out very well. I don't even see any clear reason to socialize. And the purpose of finding a sexual mate is beyond my understanding. I don't believe that hoping to score with a chick is something natural, because I see all the peer pressure factors that might influence one into such an ideal. And when one feels he's socially expected to act in a way that would further his chances towards a sexual relationship, it's hard thinking outside of that frame. I'm not asexual, I trust my dick. If it's hard, it means I wanna fuck the person. If it's soft, why imagine that I want to fuck her and behave in an awkward incongruent way?
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby Dil » Sun Feb 15, 2009 19:23

Sparx wrote:I don't know. It seems impossible for me to find the right environment yet. Yesterday I went to a party and I couldn't get past the smalltalk part. I tried fitting in with you guys on Skype, didn't work out very well. I don't even see any clear reason to socialize. And the purpose of finding a sexual mate is beyond my understanding. I don't believe that hoping to score with a chick is something natural, because I see all the peer pressure factors that might influence one into such an ideal. And when one feels he's socially expected to act in a way that would further his chances towards a sexual relationship, it's hard thinking outside of that frame. I'm not asexual, I trust my dick. If it's hard, it means I wanna fuck the person. If it's soft, why imagine that I want to fuck her and behave in an awkward incongruent way?


Humans are social animals, we move around in packs. There is a clear reason to socialize, it's to make contacts, it's good to have contacts. That's why I beat up on myself sometimes, because I've heard many times that university is about making contacts and not necessarily about learning. And I've failed in that regard...

Reading job statistics is depressing to me, most of the jobs available are not listed to the public, a very large percentage of jobs are just given to people...people that the boss happens to know. So the more people you know, the more opportunities one can obtain. So that's why I've developed some social skills, also my parents made me join the air cadets to beat some of the geek out of me, and let's just say it worked. I used to be more hopeless before, I couldn't even look at stranger's faces while talking to them, I was so introverted I was basically a bit of a cripple.

anyways, another trial:
Your Aspie score: 96 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 113 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits

and another
Your Aspie score: 94 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 117 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby Brad Reddekopp » Mon Feb 16, 2009 01:26

Dil wrote: I used to be more hopeless before, I couldn't even look at stranger's faces while talking to them, I was so introverted I was basically a bit of a cripple.

I was a social cripple in school.

In grade 6, a couple of girls on the playground said "Hi". They were just being friendly but I thought it was some new, twisted way of making fun of me so I walked away.

In grade 8, I was getting changed in the boy's changing room beside the pool in our apartment complex. It was a quiet time of day and I was alone in there. A girl, whom I'd noticed and thought was pretty, walked in a tried to strike up a conversation with me while posing fetchingly. It was a real turn-on but I was too scared to let the situation develop so I got angry and ordered her to leave. The next time I looked at her, she just scowled at me.

In grade 9, a girl whom I'd been admiring from afar had one of her friends tell me that she (the one I'd been admiring) thought I "liked" her. It was true that I liked her but I was so scared of exposing my feelings for fear of rejection that I said, "Some people sure have a good imagination" -- and walked away.

Man... What an idiot, eh? :laughter:
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby Hierophant » Mon Feb 16, 2009 01:29

Wow Brad, you got a lot farther than I did. :laughter:
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby Brad Reddekopp » Mon Feb 16, 2009 01:43

Hee!
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby Sparx » Mon Feb 16, 2009 03:37

Dil wrote:Humans are social animals, we move around in packs. There is a clear reason to socialize, it's to make contacts, it's good to have contacts. That's why I beat up on myself sometimes, because I've heard many times that university is about making contacts and not necessarily about learning. And I've failed in that regard...

That's not how I see things here. As soon as lectures are over, everyone disappears as quick as possible, so you can't even get a chance to talk to them. I don't know if they meet somewhere else, maybe they join clubs or something. All the clubs I saw were too lame to be a part of. Also, I have an off-topic question - were you born in Canada, Dil? I'm asking, because I'm exploring Asian cultures, and I was wondering if you knew anything about your ancestors' social norms and the like.

Dil wrote:Reading job statistics is depressing to me, most of the jobs available are not listed to the public, a very large percentage of jobs are just given to people...people that the boss happens to know. So the more people you know, the more opportunities one can obtain. So that's why I've developed some social skills, also my parents made me join the air cadets to beat some of the geek out of me, and let's just say it worked. I used to be more hopeless before, I couldn't even look at stranger's faces while talking to them, I was so introverted I was basically a bit of a cripple.

That's true, but you'd wanna meet people with similar interests to yours. Otherwise you're just gonna get another boring job. Also, lol @ the Air Cadets' Aims: "To provide training which will be useful in the Services and civilian life. To foster the spirit of adventure and develop qualities of leadership and good citizenship."
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby Dil » Tue Feb 17, 2009 00:09

Francois Tremblay wrote:Wow Brad, you got a lot farther than I did. :laughter:


:laughter: I love you guys. Those stories were really funny, franc, you should tell us a couple :P

That's not how I see things here. As soon as lectures are over, everyone disappears as quick as possible, so you can't even get a chance to talk to them. I don't know if they meet somewhere else, maybe they join clubs or something. All the clubs I saw were too lame to be a part of. Also, I have an off-topic question - were you born in Canada, Dil? I'm asking, because I'm exploring Asian cultures, and I was wondering if you knew anything about your ancestors' social norms and the like.


Well, I actually manage to make a few acquaintances, so if I can do it, so can you :P. You're supposed to come to class a little early and talk to people at the start of the year, you have a one week opening (usually first week), where it isn't weird. Actually, it's best to make contacts in the first week, but if you act friendly, people will usually respond friendly too. Anyways, it's a bit hard to explain, but I guess I'm a bit better off since I'm a female and females tend to be naturally better at socializing (from my observations).

I was born here, but I have a few interesting stories about my culture, I'm first generation born in a foreign culture. My grandmother is blatantly racist against black/dark people and refers to white people as white devils (but actually doesn't have anything against them). ;P My great grandpa was poisoned by this third wife because he was rich. Our family fled communist china because they didn't like it there. The number 8 is lucky, and my grandmother's birthday changes every year because they have birthdays on the lunar calendar (so if YOU think you have a bad time with birthdays, imagine one that changes every year back and forth a few days). Also more zany stuff, just message me if you want more random information.

That's true, but you'd wanna meet people with similar interests to yours. Otherwise you're just gonna get another boring job. Also, lol @ the Air Cadets' Aims: "To provide training which will be useful in the Services and civilian life. To foster the spirit of adventure and develop qualities of leadership and good citizenship."


Despite being a semi-military organization, it does produce results. Many times parents send fiddly diddly problem children to get straightened out. I guess my problem was being a wimpy introvert. Which is interesting because I'm a bit scary now, to some guys.
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Re: Are you an aspie? (Aspergers Syndrome)

Postby Hierophant » Tue Feb 17, 2009 00:55

There are no stories to tell because I had no girlfriends or anyone interested in me. I did stalk a girl for a couple months, though.
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