campershell dreams wrote:well, the one time that i was explicitly ordered to shoot a guy, i declined. even though the guy in question was in the position to kill me and the rest of my team.
Wasn't there something about that in your contract?
Milgram's experiments proved that ordinary people can easily be persuaded to atrocity. I think you should take a long and deep look at the people around you. Most of them are capable of being in the army. Most of them are capable of atrocity and are easily persuaded into it. Authority makes someone with no strong moral code fold up like a house of cards, but that doesn't make them evil. That makes them your next door neighbor, completely ordinary.
So ordinary people can't be good or bad, good and bad only applies to principled people, it is limited to that subset of people that live according to principles. Human beings are by nature unprincipled so good and bad belongs to fairy tales and fantasy. Attributions like "you are a cold-blooded killer" or "you are an atheist" can't apply to humans because they presuppose that a person can't change, but humans change all the time, as and when it is convenient.
Hitler got into power and unleashed a wave of evil? Hey, he's only human. He was an individual with values and experiences. He acted according to his values. There is no sense to say that he is this or that because his values determine what he is and human values change all the time.
In fact, there's no sense to say that atheism is good or believing in evolution is good or bad. One can only change the environment to control people's values. Logical arguments only work for people who happen to value following logic at that time, for other people other methods are necessary, like using propaganda. For some people, no methods seem to work and harder tools must be used (like happens in Russia even now).
And if it seems wrong, it's only because I happen to value something different right now, but I'm only human, so I'll probably change soon enough. I'm only human, although the word "only" here doesn't really apply because it's only a matter of what I value whether I think I should do better. I'm human, that says it all.
Hey everyone, let's discuss anarchism, but don't suppose that I will ever actually practice it. I'm human.