Negative review of 2001

[Hierophant]

What happens when an autistic kid, raised on Rambo and Rocky, who doesn't know anything whatsoever about the history of film, reviews 2001: A Space Odyssey?

Yea... it's not pretty.

http://confusedmatthew.com/2001%3A-A-Space-Odyssey.php


Here is a rebuttal from a film buff which, while arrogant in spots, very expertly slaps him in the face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WvrQ6h_ ... playnext=1

[Dadalama]

[vertigo]

I found the movie incredibly slow. The first time I watched it, I didn't get much past the docking sequence. The second time I watched, I got to where Hal acts defensively for the first time. It is just too slow.

I know that it was released in 1968, at a time when space was seen as the next frontier. I know that as early as 1950, with the movie Destination Moon, people had been treated to a realistic movie about a moon landing. Space must have been very much on the minds of people at the time. The original Star Trek TV series debuted in 1966 but the original motion picture only came in 1979. So a space movie would have been highly popular.

But now it just falls flat. Space can't sell a movie anymore.

[Hierophant]

Space can't sell a movie anymore.

Yes, because obviously 2001 was about SPACE.

[Dadalama]

I found the movie incredibly slow. The first time I watched it, I didn't get much past the docking sequence. The second time I watched, I got to where Hal acts defensively for the first time. It is just too slow.

I know that it was released in 1968, at a time when space was seen as the next frontier. I know that as early as 1950, with the movie Destination Moon, people had been treated to a realistic movie about a moon landing. Space must have been very much on the minds of people at the time. The original Star Trek TV series debuted in 1966 but the original motion picture only came in 1979. So a space movie would have been highly popular.

But now it just falls flat. Space can't sell a movie anymore.

trust me watch confused Mathews video. It's not a case of "it's too slow I didn't like it". He basically said that it was a shitton of meaningless images strung together. Which is more than an ignorant statement.
And despite as much as I loathe to admit Franc having a point it really isn't about space.

[Tmaq]

Space can't sell a movie anymore.

Yes, because obviously 2001 was about SPACE. :roll:

It kind of is. Part of the goal was to impress upon the audience the immensity of SPACE; its quiet, its long duration, its slow but steady changes, its incredibly large amount of hugeness...

The long docking sequences were AWESOME (in 1968 when nobody had ever seen anything like it)

The long space sequences were AWESOME (in 1968 shown on THREE 70mm screens because it was filmed with three cameras, and nobody really had any experience with space except grainy bullshit from the Mercury and Gemini missions. Apollo 1 only blew up a few months before the release.)

But none of that translates to the post Star Wars, post Shuttle, computer-centric world which was first envisioned realistically in that film.

The mid-90's recut has the wrist-slittingly long docking sequences trimmed up, and flows much better for it. One could cut it up even more with a time-slicer - just speed those babies up!

The story with Hal is, in many ways, the main story, but 2010 proved that the major plot is also about SPACE, or at least ASTRONOMICAL ISSUES.

The bullshit at the end of 2001 is supposed to represent Dave's experience getting mind picked apart by the superior intelligence of the monoliths, just like Hal falls apart when Dave's superior intelligence - or at least, hands - picks his memory chips apart. Its completely random...for a reason.

But you don't get the rest of either story until 2010...

-Tom