Capitalism as State Terrorism & Global resistance

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Capitalism as State Terrorism & Global resistance

Postby spartacus » Tue Jul 26, 2005 03:07

Capitalism as State Terrorism

Capitalism is the root of all inequalities and injustices of the whole world. Nothing good can come out of this kind of anti-human system which causes only poverty, war and mass mental sickness. Capitalism stimulates only the ugliest traits of human character thus encouraging only greed and deceit.
Capitalism perpetuates only hate and suffering, business is a criminal activity of cheating and manipulating our instinct of survival creating the hierarchy of mass misery.
Capitalism will be abolished by voluntary anarchism before it succeeds in completely enslaving us and fully ruining the planet.
Capitalism, like feudalism and slavery before it, causes plenty of suffering and brutalizes the populace bringing with it havoc to the community and complete destruction of nature.
Everywhere people are unhappy, everywhere the majority is poor and oppressed and the few continue to profit and prosper at the expense of the rest. This will not last for ever; the capitalist system will soon come to an end. The rich will have to learn to live with us on equal terms, without this, resistance and class revolution will expand.
Religious terrorism is part of capitalist terrorism; it is good for state security and for the diminishing of human and civil rights.
The vast majority of the world population wants to live in dignity and in equality, but there can never be a true and real peace unless there is a factual equality and concrete distribution of wealth. Capitalism forbids good living to the majority of the people, a sufficient reason for revolting. Capitalism is a never ending war against all the people of the planet, uniformed mercenaries in a rampage against life and nature in the name of the rich and the leader.
No more, the people are beginning to rise, they are beginning to insurrect and will one day soon participate in the universal anarcho-social revolution. We are fed up with this kind of un-living; we are sick and tired of this sort of imposed alienated social existence, which is miserable, dull and permanently vanquished.
The world and people have to completely and radically change or they will die and vanish. But life is stronger than slavery and capitalism and anarchy awaits us all - Capitalism is a primitive cruel idea with a modern technological cover up.

TheThe global resistance to capitalism

1) Resistance to foreign occupation.
2) Resistance to local occupation.
3) National resistance – religious resistance – class resistance.
4) It is not human nature that causes all this human misery but the system of capitalism and the people who mostly benefit from it.
5) The alternative is a contemporary anti-capitalist anarchic society that is based on a gift meta-economy.
6) The rulers of this world, in whatever form they come must be overthrown now.
7) We will immediately terminate all capitalist social relations through the abolition of money, rent and prices.
8) Working people will be liberated from their mean wages and from class discrimination.
9) The every day poverty of consumer life, the boredom and misery of work and the horror of war.
10) The misery of permanent alienation and routine, which only an anarchic revolution can resolve.

Dismantling all governing institutions and in their place we will have a decentralization and distribution of power.
Power to the people means without power at all, power to the people means the abolishment of work, wages and prisons.
Freedom means living without war-lords and states and their law – police – army security complex.
Equality means that life will be without rich or poor, without privilege for some and misery for most.
Revolution means the termination of centralized power and its dismantlement by distribution of material wealth in total equity.
Wealth belongs to all those who made in the first place which is us all and our ancestor.
Anarchy means the abolition of the state and capitalism immediately, thus creating abundance to all people of the planet. Liberty must be for all, the liberty to live without privilege or oppression.
Peace will never exist on earth as long as classes exist and by abolishing classes we abolish capitalism and vice versa.
The state is the guardian of capitalists and capitalism is the guardian of the ruling rich. This has to be stopped by an anarcho-social revolution so once and for all we will terminate this intolerable human condition forever.
Where there is capitalism there is terrorism, terrorism is just another form of aggressive capitalism.
War, terror and crime are some of the physical ingredients of capitalism.
Religion, politics and ideology are some of the mental ingredients of capitalism.
Anarchy has nothing to do with this; anarchy knows only freedom and happiness to all instead of what we are experiencing today.
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Postby Randy » Tue Jul 26, 2005 07:59

If you had bothered backing up anything you had said I might have continued reading past the first paragraph. But, all you are doing is posting your opinion with no evidence or logic to back any of it up.

Go sell crazy someplace else. We're all stocked up here.
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Postby Hellbound Alleee » Tue Jul 26, 2005 08:24

Dear Crackpot:

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
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Postby Thank You » Tue Jul 26, 2005 15:35

As Randy already pointed out, you did not make any real argument in that post. You did, however, choose an interesting name, slave warrior; And your agitation shows that you understand that something is wrong with the state/economic system currently in place. If you are willing to take this to the politics thread (I think it's off topic here), perhaps we could discuss the best method for changing the flaws of the current system.
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Postby milkfly » Thu Jul 28, 2005 03:29

Hmm, looks likek we have a robin hood wannabe... except the hood knew why. Spartacus, I recommend you read Joel Bakan's the Corporation, a very interesting read even if it only really scratches the surface of the issue. You're opinions are strong, but not totally unjustified from a politically naive standpoint. Get urself tooled up, and re-enter the arena with confidence :)
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Abolition of capitalism

Postby spartacus » Thu Jul 28, 2005 05:36

Abolition of capitalism

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We are discussing the best method for abolition the flaws of all systems in here and now. Welcome to the meta-system.

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Thanks for your positive attitude, naïve standpoint, what is this, romantic utopianism.
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Postby Randy » Thu Jul 28, 2005 06:48

The idea that anarchy will help solve anything is immature and naive. Personally I think anarchy would promote the worst in humans which is what you accuse capitalism of doing without backing it up. There will always be dishonest and greedy people no matter what socioeconomic system we have. And, those people will seek to exploit the system that is currently in place.

The problem with you socialist-communist types is that you think the world should be fair and all people are equal. Both of those premises are wrong. The world is not fair and people are not equal. Attempts to change that do nothing but cause more proplems and ultimately fail.
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Postby Aaron » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:20

The black man's president, President Clinton's Special Advisor and Secretary of State for Caspian Basin Energy Diplomacy testified in 1999:

Wednesday, March 3, 1999

Thank you, Chairman Hagel, for providing this opportunity to update you on the status of U.S. efforts to promote a network of multiple pipelines and an East-West energy transportation corridor that will bring Caspian energy to world markets and, in particular, to discuss what needs to be done to make the Baku-Ceyhan Main Export Pipeline commercially viable. Having just returned from a trip to the region, I can state that we have made substantial progress on our Caspian energy strategy and toward realizing both the trans-Caspian gas pipeline and the main export pipeline for oil.

Explaining the objectives of our Caspian energy policy is central to underline what measures the U.S. should use to implement this policy. U.S. support for multiple pipelines and the East-West energy transport corridor is part of our broader foreign policy interests in the region. In general, our Caspian energy policy addresses four strategic objectives in the Caspian region.


  • Strengthening the independence, sovereignty, and prosperity of the new Caspian states and encouraging political and economic reform;

  • Mitigating regional conflicts by building economic linkages between the new states of region;

  • Bolstering the energy security of the U.S. and our allies and the energy independence of the Caspian region by ensuring the free flow of oil and gas to the world market place;

  • And, enhancing commercial opportunities for U.S. companies.



In conclusion, let me underscore that we are making solid progress on establishing an East-West energy transportation corridor. A few years ago, few people took this idea seriously. Today however we are moving ahead on all five pipeline projects: early oil pipelines, CPC, Baku-Ceyhan, and trans-Caspian gas. The U.S. Government stands ready to provide financial support for these projects through the activities of TDA, OPIC, and EX-IM Bank. The Administration and Congress are united in our determination to support commercially viable projects. Ultimately however it is up to the countries and the companies of the Caspian region to work together to develop commercially attractive, environmentally sustainable projects. The U.S. will continue to serve as a facilitator of these discussions, in pursuit of multiple pipelines and the East-West corridor that will serve our commercial, political, and economic interests.



Thanks Bill Clinton. Your plans for a pipeline through the Middle East is working out great for everybody!
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Postby MustangGT » Thu Jul 28, 2005 15:25

spartacus, do you care to provide some examples to support the claims you made in this thread?
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ANARCHIC META-ECONOMY

Postby spartacus » Fri Jul 29, 2005 08:29

Capitalism is theft. Capitalism is alienation and anti-sociality. Capitalism is authoritarian. Capitalism is inefficient - Capitalism is racist and sexist. Capitalism is violent. Capitalism is unsustainable. But what do we want instead? ANARCHIC META-ECONOMY
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It is you who is intellectually immature and naïve. The problem with you capitalist-liberal type is that you think the world should be unfair and all people are unequal. Both of those premises are wrong. The world is fair without capitalism and people are equal. Attempts to change that do nothing but cause more tragedy and ultimately collapse.
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Postby Berk_Wyatt » Fri Jul 29, 2005 08:39

Well... after that I think I am ready to leave my cheering for capitalism and jump on the sponge-icus band-wagon.

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Re: ANARCHIC META-ECONOMY

Postby Brad Reddekopp » Fri Jul 29, 2005 09:45

spartacus wrote: MustangGT
Of course I can, I can give you all the examples you need and more,

So you say. You haven't demonstrated it.

spartacus wrote:reality is the best support for my claims

You and your claims have yet to make meaningful contact with reality.
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Postby Randy » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:40

I'm starting to think spartacus isn't even a real person. It's a commie-bot that just spreads commie-propoganda and reads responses to make an attempt at generating a response by changing a few words and posting it back. And, its not a very well written program because it's not very convincing as a real person with a brain.
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Postby Hierophant » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:57

Wow. It's like someone made a bot expressly for the purpose of making me mad. But I really doubt it.
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Re: ANARCHIC META-ECONOMY

Postby MustangGT » Fri Jul 29, 2005 16:32

spartacus wrote:MustangGT
Of course I can, I can give you all the examples you need and more, reality is the best support for my claims and the objective conditions are the best proof.
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Great! Im anxious to hear/read it! Can you provide a specific example then of a country or society where, once capitalism was instituted, that the country took a turn for the shitter?

You see, I look at reality and see a vastly different picture. To me, the countries and societies that succeed the most in quality of life, freedom, human rights, and general prosperity are the ones that enact capitalism the most.

For example, Chinas prosperity and human rights improve the more it enacts capitalistic measures. The inclusion of limited free markets in China has only increased the economic prosperity of its citizens. Chinas #1 trading partner is capitalistic America (a mutually beneficial arrangement to most degrees). China has also enacted limited voting and proper representation of its citizens due to its opening/reformation program.

Other examples:

South Korea is capitalistic, North Korea is communist. South Korea beats the absolute shit out of North Korea by every standard, from economic to personal freedom/rights.

Back in the day before Germany was reunited, West Berlin was capitalist while East Berlin was communist (remember the cold war?) And everyone was trying to defect to West Berlin. West Berlin enjoyed superior quality of life, human rights, and economic prosperity compared to East Berlin.

The African-Americans in the United States are the most prosperous blacks in the world! Why? Maybe because they benefit from the capitalistic economy of the US?

So now that I gave some examples that contradict your assertions, it is your task to provide examples which support your assertions and counter my assertion (that Capitalism ROCKS) and the supporting examples I provided.

Have a nice day! :D
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