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Postby eoin » Sat Jul 23, 2005 15:51

please post to this board if you have questions or comments regarding http://timecube.shim.net, the time cube dvd, the time cube t-shirt, or the georgia tech lecture.
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Postby Francois Tremblay » Sat Jul 23, 2005 15:57

You have been schtickied.
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Postby Emergent » Sun Jul 24, 2005 18:26

Does Dr.Gene Ray get any royalties from the dvd sales?

Just wondering...
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gene's royalties

Postby eoin » Mon Jul 25, 2005 19:52

yes, dr. ray will be getting royalties once i recover the costs from making the dvd. i haven't decided yet how much, but i'm thinking ~20%.
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Postby Guest » Tue Jul 26, 2005 07:17

Ok sounds fair.
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Postby Sedina » Fri Aug 05, 2005 14:39

How about a women's sized shirt??
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women's sizes

Postby eoin » Sat Aug 06, 2005 16:17

i did think about women when making these shirts, that's why i have youth large (yl) available. i only have *1* youth large left also. i'm really sorry if youth large is too big, but there haven't been much interest for smaller shirts actually. i may make some new shirts. if you want to request a certain size, please let me know.
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Postby guy » Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:56

WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE???
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Postby Cubehead » Fri Aug 19, 2005 17:31

What's wrong with us is that we don't worship Big Brother, nor engage in dogmatic doublethink. Your standard of "right" is imposed by the Ministry of Obscurantism, and, as Nietzsche suggested, should be overcome. We must transcend the stupid herd mentality.
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Postby Weissfusch (! a user) » Mon Aug 22, 2005 15:47

I don't really understand what's being said. Though in my defence I'm quite stupid. Perhaps some one can explain it as briefly as possible and in as simple language as possible; remember I'm not very smart about such things, but I do know a little about opposites. I would like to share them with youall, to see what you think:
Opposites like short and tall, hot and cold, big and small, pain and pleasure, good and evil are interesting opposites and quite different from opposites like male and famale, sun and moon. The first type of opposties depend greatly on their counterpart. For example a 7 foot tall building is small for a building but big for a human, boing water is hot to humans but cold compaired to the sun, a coin is small to humans but big to ants, people who live in constant pain can forget that pain (after living with it some time), It's impossible to tell what's good and evil which I won't waste your time going into for you probably think I'm very stupid by now, but I can't help it it's what I see, and to clarify I don't think good and evil are opposites: good and bad are opposites, where divine and evil are opposites (but that's samantics, isn't it?)

-- I'd be happy to clarify if anyone wants me to.
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Postby Cubehead » Tue Aug 23, 2005 02:10

Evolution is like climbing a mountain that protrudes from the sea. The force of "good" propels you to the top, whereas the force of "evil" drags you down to the bottom.

But the mountain's top and bottom aren't really equal opposites. Or, put it this way: low-level, chaotic energy is different from high-level, refined energy in such a way as doesn't conform to a clean antipodal reversal.

We thus propose different opposites: that our "evil" corresponds to someone else's "good". So, while we bomb out, others are climbing past us up the mountain. Furthermore, since "evil" thus transitions from one "good" to another, we define a 4-corner cycle:

Good1 - Evil - Good2 - Evil

The major corners are "Good", and the minor corners are "Evil".
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Postby Weissfusch » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:32

You lost me:

I don't understand your metaphor "Evolution is like climbing a mountain that protrudes from the sea."

and

Why did you definde a four corner circle.

Doesn't using such language only confuse things?

Basically what your trying to say (I know I may be wrong, for I am most confused) is that one person's good can be another person's "evil", and one shoud strive towards goodness.

If this is what you mean then I ask you: Why strive toward goodness? Espessialy when it's impossible to tell what's good, for one person's good can be different from another person's good.

and furthermore WTF is goodness?
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Postby Cubehead » Tue Aug 23, 2005 22:08

Weissfusch wrote:I don't understand your metaphor "Evolution is like climbing a mountain that protrudes from the sea."

I explain the simile thus: You start in the sea, which is like low-level chaotic energy. Then you start climbing the mountain: this represents the commencement of evolution. Continuing the ascent, you approach the summit-point: this represents the systemic refinement that evolution brings.

Weissfusch wrote:Why did you definde a four corner circle.

Doesn't using such language only confuse things?

The cycle is delimited by 4 perpendicular corners. The language should not be confusing; rather, it should help explain the relevant concept.

Weissfusch wrote:If this is what you mean then I ask you: Why strive toward goodness? Espessialy when it's impossible to tell what's good, for one person's good can be different from another person's good.

and furthermore WTF is goodness?

You don't have to be good. You could instead decide to be evil. That's your own decision; you must exercise your own free will.

"Good", in contrast to "Evil", is that which helps a community to survive and perpetuate for many generations. Sometimes it might not be clear as to whether something is "good", and so you would have to exercise your own judgement to try to figure it out.
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Postby Weissfusch » Fri Aug 26, 2005 02:00

I still don't quite understand what you were talking about with the energies, and goodness, and 4 cornered circle (which would be a box, for circles dont have corners), but I thought your answer about goodness was good.

It could be said that those who don't pratice goodness kill themselves out in the long run, while those who pratice goodness are keeping their groupe alive longer.
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Postby Cubehead » Sat Aug 27, 2005 00:17

As an example of the energy, consider a tree. It's composed of matter and energy in a refined, sophisticated state. When it dies, it rots, and is reduced to low-level chaos. See article Cycles, Systems and Complexities in Nature.

To understand the 4-corner-quadrant division that we apply to a circle, see article 4 is the Supreme Number of the Universe.
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